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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:28:00 -
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Lyrka Bloodberry wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Will relations be improved with the alleged end to slavery coming along? After all much of why the Republic despises the Empire is because of Slavery. Of course the Empire can never be forgiven for what they've done, but surely taking off the shackles would improve relations, wouldn't it?
I do not believe in this "end of slavery" before the last Slave is freed and savely arrives in the Republic.
Typical Minmatar arrogance to assume that all slaves would want to go to the Republic, even the Ealurian ones.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:51:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:As long as the Empire exists in its current form, peace is literally impossible.
I too would be happy to see a peaceful cluster overseen by a larger Empire.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:53:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote: I agree that it was foolish to go back on our treaties -- not disputing that, nor will I ever dispute it -- but when our enemy can't be bothered to keep to its word, what reason do we have to do so?
When did the Empire not keep to its word regarding the Minmatar?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.10 17:07:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote: I agree that it was foolish to go back on our treaties -- not disputing that, nor will I ever dispute it -- but when our enemy can't be bothered to keep to its word, what reason do we have to do so?
When did the Empire not keep to its word regarding the Minmatar? For starters, there's the continual raiding into the Republic -- regardless of whether or not they're 'officially sanctioned', your promises to end raids like that are coming up woefully short.
I could equally point to the incessant raids into Amarrian territory by Republican forces.
Next!
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.10 20:12:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Rodj Blake wrote: I could equally point to the incessant raids into Amarrian territory by Republican forces.
Next!
And I've already noted that netiher side is entirely blameless; the Republic and the Empire are at war, Captain Blake, and nobody is without fault in war. For the sake of accuracy, however, I have to point out that the Republic doesn't enslave the prisoners they take. The sad fact of the matter is, peace will probably never be possible, until the Empire shows that they can be honest about their intent. I mean, seriously, Captain Blake -- the Matari are patient (almost to a fault), but we're not stupid, and we can tell when we're being led down the proverbial garden path. If you want to make inroads towards peace, I suggest you get your house in order. Take care of the illegal slave raids that still occur in Republic space. Prove to us that you're sincere about stopping illegal raiding parties. It won't magically solve the problem, but it would give us at least the impression that you can be trusted to commit yourself to the peace process.
If you consider the Empress freeing millions of slaves to be us leading you up the garden path, then you clearly have no idea what a garden is.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.11 09:06:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:One of my first acts as executor of the Yoshida Estate was to set all slaves free and offering them honest pay, for honest work .. doing the exact same thing they did as slaves in my late father's time. Profits went up, efficiency went up, individual productivity went up and running costs plummeted .. all in all, the illusion of freedom has made my slaves employees better for the estate than the Caldari specialists I had on temporarily during the transition period.
So PIE is finally giving up the whole 'it's for your own good' slavery rationale? Kudos to Yoshida here for being honest as to motivations for domination and exploitation. I see a future for you!
PIE as a corporation still supports the concept of slavery, but we do not force our members to keep slaves.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.12 09:53:00 -
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Ssakaa wrote:[quote=Seriphyn Inhonores]
Additionally, among your tractor statistics. Seriphyn Inhonores, you conveniently choose to forget that a certain percentage of our people - good free Matar of the Six tribes to cite one example -do not necessarily fall under the political aegis of the Republic, nor would wish to.
And why would they? The Republic is a shambles. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:09:00 -
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It's well over a century since the Republic was formed, but then again it's typical that a Minmatar would try to hoist the blame for their problems onto someone else. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:31:00 -
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Ston Momaki wrote:The slave culture in Amarr is just as much in need of Matriculation to free society as the rescued slave or recently emancipated slave. Until there is a humbling of the slave holder's heart and an admission that the Amarr faith should be spread not through slavery but through genuine living and benefiting all humankind, there will be no improvement of transnational relations.
Slavery was built over millennia; injustice was executed over milennia. Should the slave holder be impatient with a process of reconciliation that takes a long time? The perpetrator of injustice needs to be patient with the process of righting that wrong. Improvement will come when the those who once enslaved others build credibility over time and show over time that they can be trusted. There must first be an admission that slavery is not, nor ever was, of God. There must be an admission that slavery is and has always been ungodly to the core. The slave holder's repentance must not just be toward those enslaved but also towards the God who's name you have dragged into slavery as your justification.
The missing ingredient is humility, that most difficult of qualities that requires the bravest in spirit to realize.
How can slavery be ungodly when it has brought many billions of Udorians, Ni-Kunni, Ealurians and Minmatars into God's loving embrace? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.18 18:22:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:
I agree, you are the Chosen of God. The children of God even. Do you know what properties a child has?
- Ignorance - Impatience - Helplessness - Laziness - and Unrealistic views on the world
And yet amazingly this race that you consider to be ignorant, impatient, helpless, lazy and unrealistic has not only created the largest and most powerful empire in human history but also absorbed many other races along the way.
But of course, we're none of those things.
Take the charge of impatience for example. It's not us that's calling for rapid change - it's you. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
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